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KB2VXA > IRLP 18.02.05 02:04l 67 Lines 3258 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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From: KB2VXA@NJ2AR.#CNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM
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Hi Peter and readers,
There still is confusion over my thoughts and opinions and probably
always will be. About the only point I can clear up with you is your
mixing my comments on HF QSOs with packet, no connection actually. These
are two completely separate topics, I only commented on my enthusiasm for
the challenge of HF as a point of reference and information.
I'm not about arguing over speed in forwarding as I had many times
before, but just to clear up one point radio is not so slow as to let a
message expire. FYI I have sent messages to Europe for example and back
in a matter of hours, transcontinental takes about the same time. As I
see it, the only way things get unduely delayed is when a sysop sits on
one sometimes for years before forwarding. We all see it happen.
Nobody is crying "wolf" at the Internet and I fully understand English
opinions that have arisen from conditions in the UK which depends largely
on the Internet. It's all due to outdated regulations, NoV requirements
and all that neat stuff so I understand there can be some misconceptions.
Now you say your radio ports would not reach my part of the world and
assuming they are VHF or UHF you're quite right. Now if you had one using
HF Pactor you wouldn't have to go any farther than K1UOL our Pactor link.
Therein lies the problem, no more HF or sat links exist to the UK to the
best of my knowledge.
Sure, in some cases forwarding cannot be accomplished without the
Internet but when you separate need from desire the need is very small.
Mostly it's desire since I can understand your reluctance to deal with an
NoV and other stiff regulations, but under "normal" conditions most
anything can be accomlished with radio.
Now this is not an open invitation for another sequel to Packet Wars,
only a bit of clarification of my views is intended. I don't have a
closed mind so any comments provided they are nice will not be overlooked.
BTW, the same applies to the voice modes. I don't know if the link in
southern NJ still exists but I once had some grand QSOs with Australia
from a 2M repeater there and they were on 20M. There is a remote base in
New York City operating links from 2M all the way to microwaves with
plans for HF. Now if we can use pure radio in the US as I see it what
needs change is the legal requirements in other countries such as yours.
Somehow I think it better to use radio than a glorified autopatch and
surely many will agree. A link via radio cannot be assured but therein
lies the challenge same as if you used your own station but some shy away
in favor of assurance that the Internet provides under normal conditions.
Now there are emergency conditions the Internet cannot cope with any more
than the telephone system that supports it but that's another topic.
I hope you (plural) understand me a bit better, every little bit helps.
73 de Warren, KB2VXA@NJ2AR.#CNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM
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