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1a. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Mike Melnik
1b. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
aat3ok
1c. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Howard Z.
1d. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Howard Z.
1e. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
John Wiseman
1f. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Howard Z.
1g. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
aat3ok
1h. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
la7um
1i. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
John Wiseman
1j. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Eric Carling
1k. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Mark
1l. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
K.O. Higgs
1m. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From: Ron
Stordahl N5IN
1n. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From: K
1o. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Mike Melnik
1p. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think) From:
Howard Z.
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1a. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Mike Melnik" mmelnik1@wi.rr.com n9pmo
Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:41 pm (PST)
Jim
When you place the Kam Plus or KPC Plus only use the following commands
IN KISS
RESET
Do not use the other available Kiss modes, such as XKCH ON it will not
communicate
With BPQ in my experience, Be sure Comport BAUD RATE is at least 19.2K, in
BPQ
Cfg.txt, com port speed and modem speed, both ports configured as 1st A
second port B
Mike Melnik N9PMO
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
aat3ok
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 19:13
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
OK, I have tried all the conventional things.. I have my own
BPQCFG.txt and have compiled it. When I bring up the terminal program
and try connecting to the port the radio is on I see connect messages
on the transmit screen but it never keys the transmitter..
I think for I have been tracking the wrong problem for several days
now.. thinking it was my bpqcfg files. Sooo I decided to compile
several bpqcfg files that others had sent me and with the transmitter
in a dummy load, issued the normal C 2 and callsign. Again the same
thing no transmitter key.
So now I am thinking that it is a TNC problem. I am using a KAM Plus
that is working correctly with normal packet programs including (WL2K)
RMS Packet. I find myself wondering if the TNC is going into KISS
mode correctly.
Now I have a question regarding setting the TNC up in BPQ. Is there
some TNC specific command in BPQ that tells it what type of TNC is
being used or is it just generic TNC commands that determine which
TNC is being used.
Perplexed
Jim
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1b. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "aat3ok" aat3ok@yahoo.com aat3ok
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:17 pm (PST)
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>
Mike,
I will try the higher speed com ports but here is what is a short
clip from my bpqcft.txt
PORT
PORTNUM=1 ; Optional but sets port number if stated
ID=BPQ 145.65 MHz ; Displayed by PORTS command
TYPE=ASYNC ; Port is RS232 Com
PROTOCOL=KISS ; TNC is used in KISS mode
FULLDUP=0 ; Only meaningful for KISS devices
IOADDR=1 ; 1 = SERIAL PORT COM1 ETC.
SPEED=9600 ; RS232 COM PORT SPEED
CHANNEL=A
PERSIST=64 ; PERSIST=256/(# of transmitters-1)
so do I change the protocol command
to PROTOCOL= IN KISS
or just IN KISS on that line?
I will pull the tnc off and change the baud rate when I get your
answer.. so I can do it all at one time.
Jim
> Jim
>
>
>
> When you place the Kam Plus or KPC Plus only use the following
commands
>
> IN KISS
>
> RESET
>
>
>
> Do not use the other available Kiss modes, such as XKCH ON it will
not
> communicate
>
> With BPQ in my experience, Be sure Comport BAUD RATE is at least
19.2K, in
> BPQ
>
> Cfg.txt, com port speed and modem speed, both ports configured as
1st A
> second port B
>
>
>
> Mike Melnik N9PMO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> aat3ok
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 19:13
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BPQ32] Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
>
>
>
> OK, I have tried all the conventional things.. I have my own
> BPQCFG.txt and have compiled it. When I bring up the terminal
program
> and try connecting to the port the radio is on I see connect
messages
> on the transmit screen but it never keys the transmitter..
>
> I think for I have been tracking the wrong problem for several days
> now.. thinking it was my bpqcfg files. Sooo I decided to compile
> several bpqcfg files that others had sent me and with the
transmitter
> in a dummy load, issued the normal C 2 and callsign. Again the same
> thing no transmitter key.
>
> So now I am thinking that it is a TNC problem. I am using a KAM Plus
> that is working correctly with normal packet programs including
(WL2K)
> RMS Packet. I find myself wondering if the TNC is going into KISS
> mode correctly.
>
> Now I have a question regarding setting the TNC up in BPQ. Is there
> some TNC specific command in BPQ that tells it what type of TNC is
> being used or is it just generic TNC commands that determine which
> TNC is being used.
>
> Perplexed
>
> Jim
>
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1c. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Howard Z." Howard_Z@yahoo.com howard_z
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:48 pm (PST)
How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
"IN KISS"
and
"RESET".
It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
when BPQ starts up?
Howard
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1d. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Howard Z." Howard_Z@yahoo.com howard_z
Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:52 pm (PST)
I am currently using a TNC-X which is always in KISS mode - since that
is all it can do.
I also have an SCS PTC-IIEX TNC, which must be sent
"PACKET" and "@K" to enter kiss mode.
It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
when BPQ starts up?
Howard
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1e. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "John Wiseman" john.wiseman@ntlworld.com gm8bpq
Thu Dec 4, 2008 11:17 pm (PST)
He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
(eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
73, John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Howard Z.
Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
"IN KISS"
and
"RESET".
It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
when BPQ starts up?
Howard
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1f. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Howard Z." Howard_Z@yahoo.com howard_z
Fri Dec 5, 2008 6:13 am (PST)
That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
Howard
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
>
> He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
> (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
>
> 73, John
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Howard Z.
> Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
> think)
>
>
>
> How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> "IN KISS"
> and
> "RESET".
>
> It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> when BPQ starts up?
>
> Howard
>
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1g. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "aat3ok" aat3ok@yahoo.com aat3ok
Fri Dec 5, 2008 6:30 am (PST)
Thanks John,
And actually I had wondered about that after looking at the KAM PLUS
manual.. it is a non standard command you have to give it the
command "INTFACE KISS" and then do a reset to perm it.
I had figured that out late last night but that didnt do it either.
Not sure what is going on. I suspect that I have something very
simple that I have overlooked and it is driving me nuts.
John I will send my bpqcfg.txt file to you via email see if you can
pick up on what I have done wrong. I have some documentation up top
to indicate what I am trying to do.
Thanks guys for all your efforts.. especially you John.. this is a
super program
Jim
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Z." <Howard_Z@...> wrote:
>
> That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
> Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
> and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
>
> Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
>
> Howard
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@> wrote:
> >
> > He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud
rate
> > (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
> >
> > 73, John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> > Howard Z.
> > Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM
+ (I
> > think)
> >
> >
> >
> > How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> > "IN KISS"
> > and
> > "RESET".
> >
> > It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE
is
> > started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> > when BPQ starts up?
> >
> > Howard
> >
>
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1h. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "la7um" la7um@yahoo.com la7um
Fri Dec 5, 2008 8:12 am (PST)
He might also enter the command PMODE KISS before the RESET command.
This will ensure that the KAM+ is coming up in KISS mode after a
power out.
To get it into ordinary CMD mode, you from beeing in KISS has to
enter (from a terminal program):
alt 192
alt 255
alt 192
using the numlock on.
Then it pops up again in CMD mode until next powerout.
To always coming up in CMD mode after powerout, you should enter the
command PMODE TERM , but thats not good for an unattended posistion.
73 de la7um Finn
-- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "aat3ok" <aat3ok@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks John,
>
> And actually I had wondered about that after looking at the KAM
PLUS
> manual.. it is a non standard command you have to give it the
> command "INTFACE KISS" and then do a reset to perm it.
>
> I had figured that out late last night but that didnt do it either.
> Not sure what is going on. I suspect that I have something very
> simple that I have overlooked and it is driving me nuts.
>
> John I will send my bpqcfg.txt file to you via email see if you can
> pick up on what I have done wrong. I have some documentation up
top
> to indicate what I am trying to do.
>
> Thanks guys for all your efforts.. especially you John.. this is a
> super program
>
> Jim
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Z." <Howard_Z@> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
> > Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up
hyperterminal
> > and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
> >
> > Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
> >
> > Howard
> >
> > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required
baud
> rate
> > > (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
> > >
> > > 73, John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > Howard Z.
> > > Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> > > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize
KAM
> + (I
> > > think)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> > > "IN KISS"
> > > and
> > > "RESET".
> > >
> > > It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when
AGWPE
> is
> > > started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a
TNC
> > > when BPQ starts up?
> > >
> > > Howard
> > >
> >
>
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1i. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "John Wiseman" john.wiseman@ntlworld.com gm8bpq
Fri Dec 5, 2008 8:50 am (PST)
This issue has been ongoing for about 20 years!. When I first wrote the
code I was not aware of any TNCs that could not the set to power up in
KISS mode, and, as there were so many different ways of putting a TNC
into KISS any programs that attempted to do it automatically caused more
problems than they solved. I know not all authors have the same view,
but I have not yet been convinced that my approach is wrong. I'm willing
to listen to arguments, though!
73,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Howard Z.
Sent: 05 December 2008 14:14
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
Howard
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> com, "John
Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
>
> He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
> (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
>
> 73, John
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups. <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups. <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
> Howard Z.
> Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
> think)
>
>
>
> How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> "IN KISS"
> and
> "RESET".
>
> It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> when BPQ starts up?
>
> Howard
>
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1j. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Eric Carling" eric@g0cgl.f2s.com g0cgl
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:32 am (PST)
Once in KISS mode, it will stay in KISS mode
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Howard Z.
Sent: 05 December 2008 14:14
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
Howard
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , "John
Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
>
> He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
> (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
>
> 73, John
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
> Howard Z.
> Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
> think)
>
>
>
> How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> "IN KISS"
> and
> "RESET".
>
> It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> when BPQ starts up?
>
> Howard
>
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1k. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Mark" mharloff@frontiernet.net kb2txp
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:32 am (PST)
I'm not that familiar with KAM's (I run PacComm tnc's here). But, I am
curious.. won't the KAM hold the last setup spec. after power down/power
up using it's built in battery (assuming it has one).. ?
- Mark K2CAN
Howard Z. wrote:
>
>
> That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
> Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
> and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
>
> Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
>
> Howard
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, "John
> Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
> >
> > He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
> > (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
> >
> > 73, John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Howard Z.
> > Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
> > think)
> >
> >
> >
> > How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> > "IN KISS"
> > and
> > "RESET".
> >
> > It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> > started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> > when BPQ starts up?
> >
> > Howard
> >
>
>
>
>
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1l. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "K.O. Higgs" n0kfq@centurytel.net khiggs74
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:32 am (PST)
I have use the KAM+ for many years and it does not fall out of kiss mode
upon loss of power (at least it does not for me).
K.O. N0KFQ
John Wiseman wrote:
>
> This issue has been ongoing for about 20 years!. When I first wrote
> the code I was not aware of any TNCs that could not the set to power
> up in KISS mode, and, as there were so many different ways of putting
> a TNC into KISS any programs that attempted to do it automatically
> caused more problems than they solved. I know not all authors have the
> same view, but I have not yet been convinced that my approach is
> wrong. I'm willing to listen to arguments, though!
>
> 73,
> John
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Howard Z.
> *Sent:* 05 December 2008 14:14
> *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize
> KAM + (I think)
>
> That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
> Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
> and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
>
> Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
>
> Howard
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
> >
> > He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required
> baud rate
> > (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
> >
> > 73, John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of
> > Howard Z.
> > Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize
> KAM + (I
> > think)
> >
> >
> >
> > How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> > "IN KISS"
> > and
> > "RESET".
> >
> > It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> > started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> > when BPQ starts up?
> >
> > Howard
> >
>
>
--
K.O. Higgs
n0kfq@centurytel.net
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1m. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Ron Stordahl N5IN" ron_n5in@yahoo.com ron_n5in
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:37 am (PST)
There is a program 'setkiss' in the files section which perhaps can
put this device in KISS mode. After which it should remain in kiss
mode through a power cycle, unless the internal battery is dead..which
is a possibility.
Some time ago I did search the net for other 'setkiss' programs and
there are several. They have lots of options for the various tnc's
and tend to be confusing.
Again I have never heard of a tnc which will not retain kiss mode
after being so set up...unless it's defective or the battery is dead.
Ron, N5IN
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...> wrote:
>
> I have use the KAM+ for many years and it does not fall out of kiss mode
> upon loss of power (at least it does not for me).
>
> K.O. N0KFQ
>
> John Wiseman wrote:
> >
> > This issue has been ongoing for about 20 years!. When I first wrote
> > the code I was not aware of any TNCs that could not the set to power
> > up in KISS mode, and, as there were so many different ways of
putting
> > a TNC into KISS any programs that attempted to do it automatically
> > caused more problems than they solved. I know not all authors have
the
> > same view, but I have not yet been convinced that my approach is
> > wrong. I'm willing to listen to arguments, though!
> >
> > 73,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *Howard Z.
> > *Sent:* 05 December 2008 14:14
> > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize
> > KAM + (I think)
> >
> > That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
> > Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up
hyperterminal
> > and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
> >
> > Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
> >
> > Howard
> >
> > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required
> > baud rate
> > > (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
> > >
> > > 73, John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Howard Z.
> > > Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> > > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize
> > KAM + (I
> > > think)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> > > "IN KISS"
> > > and
> > > "RESET".
> > >
> > > It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when
AGWPE is
> > > started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to
a TNC
> > > when BPQ starts up?
> > >
> > > Howard
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> K.O. Higgs
> n0kfq@...
>
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1n. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "K" kg5ks@yahoo.com kg5ks
Fri Dec 5, 2008 9:59 am (PST)
I put my kam plus in kiss mode, reset, turn back on and it will stay in
kissmode even after turning tnc on/off I have to use a little program to
make the kam plus exit the kiss mode..hi
Thank you
73
Kenny
KG5KS
DEC B AR
________________________________
From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@ntlworld.com>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:50:28 AM
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
This
issue has been ongoing for about 20 years!. When I first wrote the code I
was
not aware of any TNCs that could not the set to power up in KISS mode,
and, as
there were so many different ways of putting a TNC into KISS any
programs that attempted to do it automatically caused more problems than
they
solved. I know not all authors have the same view, but I have not yet been
convinced that my approach is wrong. I'm willing to listen to arguments,
though!
73,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com [mailto:BPQ32@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Howard Z.
Sent: 05 December 2008 14:14
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
Howard
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@ ...> wrote:
>
> He can't. The TNC must be set into KISS mode at the required baud rate
> (eg by using Hyperterminal) before starting BPQ.
>
> 73, John
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> Howard Z.
> Sent: 05 December 2008 03:48
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
> think)
>
>
>
> How can JIM send his TNC the commands:
> "IN KISS"
> and
> "RESET".
>
> It is simple to have AGWPE send two commands to a TNC when AGWPE is
> started. But, how does one tell BPQ to send two commands to a TNC
> when BPQ starts up?
>
> Howard
>
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1o. Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I think)
Posted by: "Mike Melnik" mmelnik1@wi.rr.com n9pmo
Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:57 pm (PST)
Good afternoon all
Eric is correct once in Kiss it will stay in Kiss, with the exception of
the
very early KAM with no
Battery, then the command is PERM, I keep AGWPE on my computer to take one
or more of
My TNC'S out of KISS, I use Hyper Term to place them back in kiss
IN KISS
RESET
Mike Melnik N9PMO
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Eric
Carling
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:23
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
Once in KISS mode, it will stay in KISS mode
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Howard Z.
Sent: 05 December 2008 14:14
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Having problems getting BPQ to recognize KAM + (I
think)
That sounds a bit inconvenient for Jim.
Every time his tnc is powered on he's got to bring up hyperterminal
and type two commands. Not great for an unattended operation.
Maybe this can be added to the wish-list of future changes?
Howard
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